Hi Roy-I was thinking of going Coity-Bryncethin-Llangeinor-back road to Bwllch then down Afan Valley,first left Caerau,Maesteg,Shwt,Llangeinor.I used to do that quite often-about 2.5 hrs I think.I am toying with the idea of doing it the other way round for a change-and I think the Bwllch is harder up the Afan Valley side.Flexible on time-probably about 9.It does depend on being sunny though!