The new amblers are so much friendlier than the old bunch!! I kept Roy H and newbie Mike ( riding well) company as we headed over the smilog and then then up to Gilfach (another of Marks cheeky hills) down to blackmill over mini bwlch ( Roy in training for Mallorca) then onto parc slip for coffee and cake . What a great day- no wind and great views over Llangeinor mountain total about 35 miles